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BCT182
04-19-2010, 06:40 PM
Alright I have the MSX250 and have decided to mod it, rather than replace it.

I've come up with some ideas, and Matt at CFI is doing the work.

First, I wanted to add the extended neck. The one available online has a 4" neck.


Second, I wanted to upgrade my sicce pumps, as I am currently running mesh mods. Mods are great as long as you maintain them. Since I only re-thread my wheels once a year, I decided to switch over to another style needle wheel capable of pulling the air that the mesh wheels do.

Finally, one drunken night I had dropped my cup and broke the lid. Matt will be fixing that too.


More pics to come, and also possibly further mods, including a gate valve and also a custom bubble plate. I am looking at the i-tech and considering making a similar bubble plate. I've asked Matt to cut the circle, and I intend to lay out and drill it myself. I have no devices to test the performance upgrades, but I will take more pics!

BCT182
04-19-2010, 08:31 PM
I forgot to mention, since the upgrade neck they offer is 4" I felt I had to go big, or go home. So this will be a 6" tall neck.

BCT182
04-20-2010, 07:55 PM
Here is the new neck, I will update with more once the red demon needle wheels come in!

BCT182
04-20-2010, 07:55 PM
I have no idea why they are sideways.

mfinn
04-20-2010, 08:27 PM
Do you need a air meter?

BCT182
04-20-2010, 08:30 PM
Yeah it actually would be fun to test the air with my old mesh mod, and then test with the new impellers. I haven't looked into them but I would imagine they can't cost that much.

mfinn
04-20-2010, 08:30 PM
Plus if you ask around you might find improved reducers. Improved as in creating more air flow.

Any thoughts to changing the pumps all together?

mfinn
04-20-2010, 08:31 PM
Yeah it actually would be fun to test the air with my old mesh mod, and then test with the new impellers. I haven't looked into them but I would imagine they can't cost that much.

I have one you can borrow.

thatguy559
04-20-2010, 08:34 PM
have you looked at this one? http://reefbuilders.com/2009/03/11/atb-sicce-pinwheel-psk-2500-pump/ what made you go with the red devil one?

mfinn
04-20-2010, 09:01 PM
Plus one of the problems I have ran into with the pinwheels on these sicce pumps, is if you don't have the right bushing inside the volute/impeller cover, it won't work.

On mine if you don't have the longer black bushing they won't work.


http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4720/bushing5.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/bushing5.jpg/)

BCT182
04-20-2010, 09:05 PM
Yeah I will order the reducers. They are $7.99 each. As for changing pumps, it's more than I wanted to invest right now.

That would be awesome if I could borrow the meter too.

BCT182
04-20-2010, 09:07 PM
Where did you get the longer black bushings from?

mfinn
04-20-2010, 09:16 PM
Yeah I will order the reducers. They are $7.99 each.

sent you a pm.


where did you find the reducers?

mfinn
04-20-2010, 09:19 PM
I should have said,, on my sicce pumps, they wouldn't work with the white bushings.
I'm thinking there are alot of sicce pumps around for different brands of skimmers, with their own little tweaks.

BCT182
04-20-2010, 10:16 PM
So I may just be SOL if I don't have the correct bushings?

mfinn
04-20-2010, 10:53 PM
So I may just be SOL if I don't have the correct bushings?



I would hope that skimmerwhisperer or luke33 would see this and help.

Skimmy
04-21-2010, 12:46 AM
here's the longer shaft end cap used with pinwheels.

when you bought the skimmer, you should have received pinwheels with these black endcaps as well as the white ones on the meshwheels...

http://saltwaterconnection.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=67

BCT182
04-21-2010, 07:42 AM
Back when I ordered mine the only place that was importing them was marine solutions and at that time they did not include needle wheels.

BCT182
04-21-2010, 11:48 AM
Ok here are some shots now that its been running a full 24hrs (without red demons):

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj210/BCT182s_Reef/DSC_0001-1.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj210/BCT182s_Reef/DSC_0002-1.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj210/BCT182s_Reef/DSC_0003.jpg