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Airphotog
12-15-2011, 10:32 PM
Would 5500-6500K for the white and 439-456nm for the blue work for SPS, Zoas and anemones?

Somethings Fishy
12-16-2011, 12:23 AM
sounds like it would probably work depending on how many ect ect

Airphotog
12-16-2011, 11:35 AM
So, is there any ideal combination that has been determined? I want to make sure I get this right the first time.

mojoreef
12-16-2011, 04:50 PM
Dog do a search on led you should find a bunch of the kind of info your looking for.


Mike

Airphotog
12-16-2011, 05:00 PM
I did Mojo and it appears that it depends on who is doing the article as to what they say. I have come to the conclusion that this combination should work pretty well for the inhabitants and look good also.

Brian..

tat2z_21
12-16-2011, 05:09 PM
Well you have different things at play here. Really it comes down to how blue you want your tank. Are you going dimmable, or just on/off. If you are looking for a 20k look then the 2 to 1 ( 2 blue to 1white) comes into play. I personally like the 14k look and enjoy the ability of changing the color if needed. So 2 whites to 1 blue) with dimming so that I can dial the right color in.

Airphotog
12-16-2011, 05:21 PM
Well you have different things at play here. Really it comes down to how blue you want your tank. Are you going dimmable, or just on/off. If you are looking for a 20k look then the 2 to 1 ( 2 blue to 1white) comes into play. I personally like the 14k look and enjoy the ability of changing the color if needed. So 2 whites to 1 blue) with dimming so that I can dial the right color in.

I will be able to dim the whites but the blues won't be able to.

tat2z_21
12-16-2011, 05:43 PM
Ok I would rather dim the blues, do you only have 1 dimmable driver. I have another one if you need one.

Airphotog
12-16-2011, 05:52 PM
These are the lights I am considering.

Award Winning LEDs (http://www.finnex.net/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&category_id=37&product_id=285&Itemid=61&vmcchk=1&Itemid=61)

TJL
12-16-2011, 06:59 PM
How big a tank are these going to light up ??? At $40 a crack I'd consider building your own using 3w chips and dimable drivers instead. This way you could get exactly the combination you want/need

Cheers, Todd

tat2z_21
12-16-2011, 07:10 PM
I agree, please remember that LEDs are pretty much point and shoot light sources, meaning that you would need lots of those depending on the size of tank they are going over. And whether or not you are doing a coral tank. There is not enough information on the lights themselves to make a good choice.

Airphotog
12-16-2011, 11:55 PM
Here is one of them on a 90.


Schuber Wright Safari Color Enhancing Growth Light - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPLIgYU1img)

tat2z_21
12-17-2011, 12:20 AM
I am not one to say that there is only one way of doing things and if you feel this light will work for what you need, then you should go for it. The only thing is I do not know enough about the penetrating power or the LED itself to tell you what you need. If it was me I would save the money and buy a heatsink and some LED's and know what you are getting. If you do enough research you can pretty much build one of those yourself. With enough power to run a full blown reef. Again this is just my opinion, this may be exactly what you are looking for as far as design and ability, if you do go that route maybe you can post about it and let the rest of us know how it is working. Everyone is on the CREE bandwagon right now and you may find people pushing that down your throat, but really I take it back to what brought me to this site and that is people doing what works for them. When I first started this hobby, people all said that LED technology would never be capable of supporting a reef and that it they are not as efficient as halide's. But now it seems like everyone is going that route. So do what works for you. In my opinion and it may not be worth much, if you are going with corals you could build one for way cheaper. And being that those come from overseas the warranty that may come with it is really not worth the hassle. If you find that you do want to go the DIY route hit me up and I will try to help you out as much as possible. If the look of those are what you are going for it can be built.

tat2z_21
12-17-2011, 12:22 AM
Oh and the video that you showed is on a fish only tank, no doubt that it puts out a lot of light, but when it comes to corals it is the pentrating power that matters. If a light cant push enough photons past the first 6 inches of water column it is not worth the hassle.

Airphotog
12-17-2011, 11:10 AM
What do you think about these?

Dimmable 100% CREE LED GU10 9W High Power Warm White&Cool White Light Bulb GC1D | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dimmable-100-CREE-LED-GU10-9W-High-Power-Warm-White-Cool-White-Light-Bulb-GC1D-/180775172357?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item6fc53322f9)

TJL
12-17-2011, 12:05 PM
Good find, looks to be great quality for the $'s but only covers your Whites. If you had/have some Blue LED stunner strips to supplement them could be a very effective partial DIY setup.


Cheers, Todd

Airphotog
12-17-2011, 12:14 PM
OK so here is another one to look at.

LED Strip Bar (http://www.finnex.net/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&category_id=4&product_id=153&Itemid=61)

TJL
12-17-2011, 12:29 PM
Looks pretty good, like thier heat-sink design but did not dig deep enough to find any pricing and not aware of any local dealer of Finnex. I'll keep tagging along on this to see what else you may find.

Cheers, Todd

Airphotog
12-17-2011, 12:36 PM
I think they are 89.99.



Looks pretty good, like thier heat-sink design but did not dig deep enough to find any pricing and not aware of any local dealer of Finnex. I'll keep tagging along on this to see what else you may find.

Cheers, Todd

tat2z_21
12-17-2011, 04:17 PM
Those would be awesome supplemental lighting. This way you could have a little more flexibility of the lighting. I still have not seen dimensions of your tank, and your plans for aniumals. This would help us out tremendously to better give you advice for your lighting needs.

Airphotog
12-17-2011, 05:31 PM
It is a standard 75 acrylic. 48" wide. As for animals softies, anemonies, zoas, mushrooms and of course fish.

TJL
12-17-2011, 09:01 PM
Hey Fishy, looks like maybe $300 +- for your tank then. I'd say six of the 9w GU10 lenghtwise across tank and a Blue LED Bar front and back should do it well enough for some non high-light demanding corals. If you could have six pairs of the White GU10's on each side you'd be golden for many more options.


Cheers, Todd

Airphotog
12-17-2011, 10:14 PM
OK guys thanks for all of your input. If I get these running 110 volts do you see any issues?

Brian...

10pcs Dimmable 9W GU10 3*3W CREE LED Spot Light Lamp Bulb Warm White&Cool White | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/10pcs-Dimmable-9W-GU10-3-3W-CREE-LED-Spot-Light-Lamp-Bulb-Warm-White-Cool-White-/170713812832?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item6d70cdce20)

Airphotog
12-19-2011, 07:37 PM
Any chance I could get a comment on the last post? I don't know if 110 volt lights are going to be a prolem.

tat2z_21
12-20-2011, 11:03 PM
There is no issue. Your rail that they run into or socket would just se your regular old wall power. Your wall power is rated at 115vac 60htz. And depending on your circuit probably a 20a circuit.

Airphotog
12-21-2011, 09:15 AM
I did not think it would be just thought I would ask. Tat2, So how do you figure out if a blue light is reef capable? I found these and if they would work they would be perfect for what I am doing.

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Airphotog
12-21-2011, 09:17 AM
I wonde if these would work?

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Alex
04-05-2012, 10:27 PM
i use 12000-14000k, they have better penetration
and the color is beautiful