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    o2manyfish - Skimmer Comparison

    Intro - Hey Folks - o2manyfish aka Dave B here. This thread caused some commotion on a previous board - Please don't bring up any previous issues on this thread. If you have questions you can email me directly at Dave@o2manyfish.com

    In the meantime, I contacted the admins here on Reef Frontiers, told them my intentions and got their blessing to start this thread here for people to participate in the skimmer comparison....

    So here we go again.

    a) I am the Distribution point for Deltec in Southern California - Doug aka DeltecUSA is a sponsor of this board.

    b) Myself and the importers of the Bubble King skimmer decided to put together a fun lil skim off. However, more and more people wanted to participate. So I decided to try to make this as educational as possible for people.

    c) I currently have, available the following skimmers for testing - EuroReef, AquaMedic, Geo, Grotech, Bubble King, Aqua C, Deltec and Via Aqua.

    D) Some of these skimmers are being provided by Owner/Hobbyists, some are being provided by the Manufacturers/Importers.

    e) I have a 1500g outdoor SPS system. The plan is to place the skimmers in a sump that is attached to the system. The sump has a flowrate of about 1500gph. The water coming into the sump is taken from one of 7 tanks that make up the outdoor system. The tanks are in series and gravity feed from one tank to the next.

    f) Skimmer performance will be rated on Sludge Production, Sludge Stench, Sludge Density and Duration Skimmer Continues to remove sludge in quantites.

    g) So as to insure open and and fair play, the rating of the skimmer production will involve myself, other local hobbyists and representatives of other skimmer companies.

    h) I am located in Los Angeles, I am not business, but I do welcome people travelling to the LA area to make an appointment to come on over and see the skimmers. Just email me to set up a time.

    i) Because of the quantity of skimmers involved this is going to last for probably 4 to 6 weeks.

    j) If you have a skimmer you like, or make, or rep that you would like to partake in this - Please let me know - Everyone is welcome

    k) We are interested in getting a Beckett style skimmer into the comparison, if you have access to one, or know one of the Beckett Skimmer Manufacturers please ask them to contact me regarding this.

    l) We would also like to get an H&S Skimmer in the mix.

    Here is a photo of the tank setup for the skimmers - There is room next to the tank for Non-Submersible skimmers to be connected.


    Details on the system - The system is roughly 1500 gallons. The head piece is my 360g display tank:


    The system consists of (1) 125+g shallow frag tank (Outside), (1) 76g Shallow Frag Tank (outside), (2) 250g Sumps outside, (1) 360g Sump Buried for Geothermal cooling and a 100g equipment sump.

    The livestock in the system includes over 1000pcs of SPS. And over 100 different fish throughout the tanks. The fish in the display tank are fed weekly (maybe). The fish in the outdoor frag tanks are not fed at all.

    If you have any questions please post here. Thank you to the gracious Mods of Reef Frontiers for welcoming this post.

    And again, please don't bring up any negative issues from other boards regarding this topic.

    Thanks

    Dave B

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    Do you a website devoted to this tank? I'd be interested in learning more about your setup.

    Sounds like a fun competition... I don't know how accurate you can be (variations in capacity ratings, manual settings, etc.), but still fun. Good luck.

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    Dave this sounds like tis going to be a fun one. Make sure to post all the details on how you are doing it. With all the new designs and concepts out their now it will be neat to see which are the most efficient.

    One quick question, are you doing them one at a time or a few at the same time??


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    Queries

    John

    I have not really updated my own website since I put up the new display tank in April - I will be working on it over the next couple of weeks.

    As for comparing, the most apparent way to compare the skimmers is to put them together, and the better skimmers will continue to skim after the inferior ones fail to produce skimmate any longer.

    Which leads to your question Mojo. Madison who will hopefully be joining here shortly is organizing like a football pool bracket to match the skimmers up. The skimmers will be competing in groups of 3 to 4 for a week or more till a clear difference is noticed. And then the better skimmers will move on to the next round.

    Dave B

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    Hey Dave! Cant wait to see all these skimmers rocking. I heard too many good things about Deltec and Bubble King and want to see it in action now against each other. Tagging.


    I'll send some of the guys over this way as they wanted to see this.
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    I'm glad I found this. I now have to get used to the new format. It might take a while to get used to. Still planning that 12/9 trip to LA. I hope Madison sees this as I need a bunch of stuff.

    Mike

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    Dave,

    this has made my whole day! glad you're getting this up and running again. let me know if i can do anything to help promote it. you know how i feel about all the other issues, so i'll bite my tongue on this. i'm just completely jazzed that the 'powers that be' on this board can see the overall good in what this is all about. if you want me to post something on my RC forum, i'll be more than happy to do so.

    glad you're back
    Doug

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    Dave,
    I'm happy to see this "skim-off" thread up and running.This sounds very interesting.
    I'll be lurking!

    Andy

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    I have a unit I built with an Eheim Surface Skimmer, a powerhead, and a pop bottle. Any takers on odds?
    Dan McGuire

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    I think its a good idea to get some of the people to understand where you can get these products to see what they are advertised as:

    Royal Exclusiv's Bubble King: http://captiveoceans.com/
    Deltec: http://www.deltecusa.us/
    Euro-Reef: http://www.euro-reef.com
    Aqua Medic: http://www.aqua-medic.de/
    Grotech: http://captiveoceans.com/

    And the others Im not too sure. These are suppose to be the bad boys!

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    Hey Dave, I like the new digs for the forum. If vegasmike doesn't want to contribute his MR4, I'll drop off my MR3.

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    As for comparing, the most apparent way to compare the skimmers is to put them together, and the better skimmers will continue to skim after the inferior ones fail to produce skimmate any longer.
    Hmm may yes maybe no. The ones that work on a volume basis might have a bit of an advantage with a stronger pump. Either way it would be neat to see them go, just input the crap in the middle I guess, lol.

    Did you happen to read the rider where the winner gets an all inclusive stay at the Lake Tapps Research center???

    A big welcome to the new folks that have jumped onboard I hope you get a chance to browse around at our content in the id gallery, library and equipment gallery.

    Doug is Diver dan still in biz???


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    Dave,

    Still waiting on the parts on the skimmer? It'll be interesting to see which skimmers advance out of the brackets.

    Ted

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    Doug is Diver dan still in biz???
    Mike, maybe i'm stepping on someone else's answer here, but are you asking me? if you are, can you be a bit more specific?

    apologies in advance if this was directed to a different Doug.

    Doug

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    Alright Dave! I still want to check in when I'm working out that way to see this in person! Give me the secreat turtle hand shake so I can get past the guard dogs

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