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    Ozone tips

    Ozone should never be run high, unless running the reactor (skimmer) exhaust through fresh carbon. You can gas tank and humans, it is toxic. Ozone resistant tubing can be found best at online stores or even ebay. Think it is either silicone, polyurethane, PVF and a few others. It is not too expencive. You might be able to use fuel line stuff from auto stores, have never tried.

    Always start very low, and raise it over time.

    ONLY use ozone with an ORP probe on a controller!!!!!!

    I consider Ozone a secret weapon of mass destruction. Harmful to pets, bad for lungs, can nuke a tank;
    BUT if have a mini cycle happening in a tank with SPS, you might stop the crash from not only nutrient spike, but the resulting toxins released similar to chemical warfare.

    Speaking of such, can also help keep down the day to day chemical warefare between mixed corals such as softys and SPS.

    Chem warfare is "allelopathy" - In this use of the word, one specie of coral produces and releases chemical substances that inhibit the growth of another species. They release Terpenoid Compounds into the water. Ozone breaks them down very well as it chops up complex molecules into simpler ones. It Oxidizes protiens.

    One does not HAVE to use the carbon filter if your reactor (skimmer or otherwise) is outside in a garage, but run at low levels and set the controller for low ORP and gradually raise it until you find a balance where it is only running a bit

    Never use Ozone for other than maintaining ORP within the aquarium or a spa, it is too dangerous to jury rig it as an air purifier.
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    What is ozone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpiotrowski View Post
    What is ozone?
    Its amazing Kev. I posted the salient points of our discussion here and at the same time on a Facebook page. Nata's fun blog got over a dozen replies with a lot of added info and links, and contribution besides questions. Here, feel like we are talking into an empty room. . .

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    I wonder what the effects of ozone are on open wounds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herefishyfishy View Post
    Its amazing Kev. I posted the salient points of our discussion here and at the same time on a Facebook page. Nata's fun blog got over a dozen replies with a lot of added info and links, and contribution besides questions. Here, feel like we are talking into an empty room. . .

    Anyone - anyone - Bueller?
    I've never used ozone, so I don't even know which questions to ask?

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    Not an ozone fan myself. .sry
    Never used it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1guydude View Post
    Not an ozone fan myself. .sry
    Never used it.
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    How do you know if you have not tried it? I myself have not used it in a reef tank.....but I am a fan!
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    With a large system and too much fish ozone can be a useful tool. It can also be bad if used improperly or with lack of knowlegde. Its absolutely not necessary for a successful reef tank but in some cases, a great tool.

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    my last system was 120g tank with 50 gallon fuge and my orp ran in the low 400's due to that relatively large fuge to dispaly ratio. My new 300g with immature fuge that has an area af about 36x15 is struggling to maintain 300 and so I am considering ozone lately ( please note my above comments about not knowing what it is was a poke for someone who has yet to reply here). so if anyone is interested in this first you must measure your orp to see if it is even needed. well, first actually you must understand what orp is a measurement of. I took the time a few years ago to understand it and since I always monitor orp. It is my personaly feeling that If I had to choose between monitoring only one of the following, orp,ph, and conductivity I would choose orp! I measure my sg with a refractometer ., I maintain strict alk levels so ph to me is mostly of no concern....nothing I'm going to chase and try to change anyway. Your orp tells much more about your water quality!!!

    This is a really good topic that was started here! understand you can get away without using ozone....but you can't get away from orp. orp has always been and forever will be, regardless of your awareness of it. it is not some new cool trend in the hobby. It is biochemistry and basics of life. and if you have an aquarium monitor that you can plug an orp probe into, it is my opinion it should be your next purchase before any pretty coral.

    orp will tell you things like

    you are feeding too much. or have too many fish
    time for a water change, carbon change.
    something is dying or has died.....
    and time to run ozone.

    but again, run too much ozone and you kill EVERYTHING. a big enough ozone generator could melt your skin off. and since your lungs are a single cell thick membrane this is the first place it becomes harmful to humans. prob kill a canary like real quick!......like tweet tweet...DEAD!
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    I would have to do lots of research just so I can break down molelcules by introducing something potentially lethal on a larger scale.
    Idk the initial start up cost... so I can maybe kill everything.
    I just think ozone is a bit outdated. Good idea.
    But
    We can easiily remove all the protein and molecules we want with todays skimmers, pellet reactors, or even some simple carbon abosorberozer.
    I think if all these things didn't require a solenoid or c02 tank or orp contoller, read out, monitor thing.
    (I kno I'm mixing orp and cal reactor here)
    Idk just haven't jumped into the world.of big equipment yet. Waiting to combine my tanks... kriptrowski I've never even seen it being used on a tank.

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    I have heard. U can't get your water any clearer than with ozone. I think mojo.used it.
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    Btw ozone is just increase ur oxygen molecules from o2 to o3.
    Making it lethal. Idk exactly how it works or even wat it is... guessing a chemical.I kno u should shoot it into ur skimmer. Lol
    Tell me tell me....ill prob stick to my 1 a month wc but tell me

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    For anyone that is considering to use ozone, you will need to read the three part series articles from Randy Holmes-Farley at least twice, maybe three times. it took me four times before I understood the concept...

    Also, in NO way do you implement ozone with OUT a ORP probe connected to a controller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1guydude View Post
    I would have to do lots of research just so I can break down molelcules by introducing something potentially lethal on a larger scale.
    Idk the initial start up cost... so I can maybe kill everything.
    I just think ozone is a bit outdated. Good idea.
    But
    We can easiily remove all the protein and molecules we want with todays skimmers, pellet reactors, or even some simple carbon abosorberozer.
    I think if all these things didn't require a solenoid or c02 tank or orp contoller, read out, monitor thing.
    (I kno I'm mixing orp and cal reactor here)
    Idk just haven't jumped into the world.of big equipment yet. Waiting to combine my tanks... kriptrowski I've never even seen it being used on a tank.

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    you do not break down the molecules. what happens when ran with ozone. the molecule changes to 3 times the size of what it was. so now you have bigger molecules. the bigger the molecule. more dirt and waste collects to it. thats how your skimmer will get rid of more waste

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