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    When just kicking about the house I wear those short tennis socks, sometimes I go as far as stockless
    LOL...I'm with you Scooter! Socks are meant for feet not tanks (LOL). You think if you wore your socks all day and sweat in them and put it on your intake coming from your tank, will it kill algae? (LOL) Just a though...Never saw algae in a sewer before!
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    I see we're getting back to that good conversation now.

    This is much better.

    > Wave98

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    Quote Originally Posted by wave98
    I see we're getting back to that good conversation now.

    This is much better.

    > Wave98
    it was a joke. lightin up

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris&barb
    it was a joke. lightin up

    Aah, What?

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    Srry to interrupt, I am usually more of a spectator and less of a poster but I want to throw some ideas out to hopefully be picked apart. I have run nano’s for a few years specifically BB/high flow/mass skimming/cooked lr etc. The only difference is I do not have fish/shrimp, just sps/usually 3-4 snails (anymore and they starve) and a couple blue-legs/scarlets for movement.
    I do not/have not had visible algea beyond coraline and when I do happen to get frags that are on rocks that have algea I just place it in the tank and it is gone within a few days. I have recently (within the last 4 months) been making my plugs and rocks that I use for frags, out of a bio-safe/uv resistant 2 stage epoxy and cleaned/dried aragonite (I mix these into a rock/plastic concrete and let dry). They are basically rocks that look like clumps of sand that can be made to whatever shape/size, they are essentially plastic so the thought (hope ) is they will only have their outer surface to house algea/bacteria and not have any potential of internal die-off/nutrient/phos release. I then “cook” these rocks with actual live-rock to hopefully get some form of bacteria growing on them so they house some form of biological filtration.

    —So far nothing has grown on them (besides the sps frags I have glued to them ) and all the levels in my tank are staying 0 (trates/phos/etc). I have just ordered a new starfire 20"L/20"W/12"T nano that should be here within the month and I will be using 100% of this cured/fake rock in the tank, I currently have about 45lbs of it curing in the dark with some lr. My inhabitants will be all acros/montis a few snails and a few small crabs. My feeding regime will be the same (I wont feed anything) and water changes will be my usual 10% weekly.

    ----What I have found with this so far is the following:
    -It takes about 1 week to have a visible (if viewed from the side) light film on the glass, after 2-3 weeks this light green haze can be seen from the front, I then use my mag-float and scrape it off, the back wall of the tank has not been cleane for 3 months and there is only a little bit of visible coraline, nothing else.
    -when I place (sps) frags in the tank from other systems the rocks they are on tend to shed a lot which sometime can cause slow necrosis on the base of the frag. the skeleton will look green at the base, I assume (I could be way off here )it is wicking up whatever is leaching from the rock it is on. If I immediately chissel the frag off and glue it to a fake-rock plug before letting it sit in the tank, I do not have this issue, and before I did this by switching the frag, it would stop the stn/rtn.
    -Ricordia slowly shrivels and die. I have only tried yumas, floridas might be different?
    -Cheato does not grow so I took it out of my sump.
    -gsp doesn't grow, they don’t die but they don’t grow either?
    -zoo’s grow but only on the bottom and they tend to grow down/away from the light.
    -Anymore than 4 snails and one will die soon after addition, I am assuming it is starvation because ammonia/trites/trates/phos still remain 0 after addition. When I am 100% fake rock I will probably take it down to 1-2 snails or let them starve to equilibrium.
    -I have had to reduce my photo period to 9hrs (from 12) and my light is now about 16" from the water (was 6) since removing most of my lr and replacing with fake, I was getting bleaching and slowed growth.
    -The feather worms on my remaining live-rock are growing and multiplying?
    -my pods are growing and multiplying?.
    -I have tried pink pom-pom zenia, it is growing but very slowly, it looks plump not shriveled(my sps outgrow it).
    -coraline growth is very minimal, the coraline I get is very light colored-I only do water changes, no dosing of anything so my cal is probably not extremely high. I use tropic marine pro.
    -skimmate has greatly decreased, adding a single piece of additional lr/frags (even only a couple of inches) causes the skimmer to go crazy for a day or two, but trites/trates/phos remain 0.

    This is kind of an extreme approach and I am not advocating it do too not having enough experience with it myself, my bio-diversity is whatever I add, and I only add corals so my rocks are probably boring to a lot of people (I prefer to look at the corals ). I have yet to introduce an algea that has lived (I had a rock with a small patch of a thick red spikey weed that didnt go away, it did not grow but it did not shrivel and die either, my blue-legs eventually got it. I do not believe that the 20 or so gallons of water is realistic for a fish, especially if my focus is sps, so I do not add any. I had a yellow tailed damsel that I kept for a year but got rid of because I did not like that I was adding waist (food), it did not however have any visual side effects on the tank?

    What does anyone see as potential problems with this system in the future, what would you change? My basic thought is, if it has potential to die/polute and it is not a coral or something i look at, it is removed(I am soooo srry for the length of this post ).

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    WOW MNTL!!! You said you were a spectator more than a poster, but I think you just made up for all of the time you could have posted since you joined in February(LOL) The problem with the post was, by the time I finished reading through it, I forgot what I read in the beginning!(LOL) Just Kidding...I think it was quite interesting and something that I'm sure will have much debate on. Me, I'm not much of a debator, just wanted to say welcome to RF and I'm glad you finally posted! I'll be looking forward to the replies to your post.
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    Here are some answers to your questions! Some of the LR is more than 9 years old, it has been transfered from tank to tank as I keep upgrading. So it is safe to say that this is cured. The sock that I am talking about is not a sock off my foot, but one of those nylon filter socks like a 500 micron that filters out sediment in water. I would never use an ordinary sock for such things. The fish that I had were young, any where from 6 months to a year. i have not changed my ways of algea export but thinking that maybe more frequent water changes would be the better way to go. I have an Ro unit, but no DI, could this be the culpret. I have been using Kent marine salt for the water changes. Did I forget any questions?

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    this one confuses me
    ive had tons of algae problems in the past installed a calcium reactor and algae problems gone.

    ive heard of people adding reactors and algae problems arousing

    vic

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    i thought i'd post my algae experience since i have so much algae, i started with a lot of sargassum, so much that i pulled it almost all out, and then some hair algae which was cured kinda when cyano came in and ate it all. During this time i also had something that has now completely dissappeared for no apparent reason, some thought it might have been a gorgonian, but i was harvesting this stuff like a 2 pitchers a week then it just stopped, then what as left of the hair algae was eaten by my tang and cyano was cleaned out with chemi clean. I used to have piscina but that fell victim to the cyano too, a shame that stuff was cool looking, now the sargassum is back though it looks nice with my lack of corals and money to fix that problem. I've got a unidentified algae just has been maintained by my tang, and cheato now in my sump along with a few types of caulerpa (razor, feather and grape) and halmedia. my halmedia seems to max out and get white once it reaches a certain height, i've also got decent amounts of coraline, though mine isn't purple like most, it's more white on the glass but the stuff on some rocks is purple, anyone know why? i've also got bunches of bubble algae valonia, bigger round ones and long lighter colored ones, and umm another kinda that has a bunch of dark green small bubbles form a single bigger bubble. i've also got the weird stalks that are mostly white with green tips, but one that is green on the underside and red on top, i'll try to get a picture since i've never seen one like this. i've also got a calcium skeleton green algae that grows in a bushy fashion that i don't know what it's called, for algae control 10 hermits and a yellow tang and chemi clean was used once and now sits by my tank
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    o i forgot to mention i have nitrates of 0 for well almost the entirity of my tank just over a year and for a span i did like 2 water changes in 4-5 months, probably not good but i'm amending those habits.
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    I was a fool 3 years ago and destroyed my live rock. I want to recolonize it and boght some new. I am trying to grow the purple crusting algae that is on some of the rocks. I have three flourescent tubes of 6500K over my tank but want to take one of those out and rplace it with an actinic blue. Iam using Reef Builder by Seachem but nothing else. Do I need to add calcium and /or test for this? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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    Hi, i'm new and going nuts! Maybe I shouldnt have started a saltwater tank but I did, and cant go back well i'm having a problem with green algea, I cant see my fish! My tank just finished cycling is this normal?

    Thanks anyone who answers!
    Algea man

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    it's normal that most tanks go through algae blooms, water changes and cleaner crews help, also algae feeds of light nitrate and phosphate, if u're using tap water that can be a source, though not always, nitrate comes from the cycling process and light, good spectrums like 10k + go for corals more then algaes though algae will still grow. RO/DI (reverse osmosis/de-ionization, think that's what it stands for) units help against algae and run a variety of prices just use the RO/DI water for replenishing evaporation and when u mix your salt. RO/DI units help against other stuff u don't want in ur tank like metals of different sorts along with nitrates and phosphates, just purifies the water basically.
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    I have some short feather calupra that i just can't get rid of. Can anyone sugest a perticular type of tang, or animal that might have an apitite for this pain in the rear type of alge. I have tried yellow, kole and blue tangs and they would rather starve than eat it.

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    Welcome to Rf sickright! I have never had any dealings with caulerpa at all, so I wouldn't really know...Sorry. I just wanted to welcome you to the forum. This thread has been idle for a while now so you may get a quicker response if you start a new thread in the general forum. Best of luck!
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