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dannyd

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Does anyone know what I can do about this ick in my reef tank? I have spoken with steve tonight and we are planning on taking the fish out and quarintining them as soon as possible. Will this go away after about a month? I have corals in this tank and live rock. Desperatly need help or suggestions.
 

Gordo

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I introduced a Naso tang into my tank that got ick after about a week. I just soaked the food I was feeding with garlic extreme (Kent Marine) and Seacon. Ick was gone in about two weeks. I continued the treatment for another two weeks to be sure.

Gordo
 

wrightme43

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Here is the plan If anyone has a better one please let us know. Background info. New naso from lfs not quar. died I think he said 4-5 days ago. I have a 55 quar tank and a 44 quar. The plan is move all fish from dannys to my house, put in 55 quar tank dose with copper, feed garlic soaked foods, move my uv steri to the quar tank, keep fish for 30 days in quar after last sign of ick. I told him that more than likely the trophants would be dead after 30 days with no hosts in his tank but we will probley best off not to move the rock or sand to his 240 gallon. These are my opinions and only what has worked for me. I quar all my fish for minimum two weeks usally 3 weeks. I would rather have it die alone than take all my fish with it. If you want to do something else I will not be upset, If I rember correctly you bought the fish almost 2 weeks ago, that is enough time for the ick to really get settled in and if it is on all your fish as you said, garlic more than likely wont turn the trick. It is up to you, unless you call tomorrow while I am in columbia Ky I will assume you want to go ahead with the plan and I will have the tank ready when you get here. Otherwise please let me know because I will go out with Jenny instead. Steve
 

cwcross

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Steve it is very important to get EVERY fish out of your tank. If you can't do that then the ich will not leave your tank. The ich parasite has a life cycle that must have a host to complete. In order to completely rid your tank of ich it must lay follow for at least 6 weeks, 8 better.

I have had two ich out breaks in my tank. I can't get my fish out. I lost 2 chromis and 3 clowns. I didn't do anything (as I couldn't). Some fish are just imune to the ich. My yellow tank got it really bad but recovered. Now I haven't seen any signs of ich for months.

Point is, I'm not sure if you can really fight ich that effectively. I do soak in garlic extreme. I think all the fish I have now are immune to ich. Also, a cleaner wrasse and cleaner shrimp can help a little.

best luck...Collin
 

wrightme43

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Collin appreciate your help, You are preaching at the choir man, I am not the one with ick. I agree with your statements 100% The only effective means of ick irradication is the fallow tank killing the parisites through lack of host org. Danny has put all of his fish in a 30 gallon tank, I am not sure it is big enough to keep all of his fish alive, I wanted him to move them here to my quar. tanks. a 55 and a 44 with cycled established filtration with no ick. The only thing he can do now is frequent like every two days water changes on the small tank now holding a good sized queen angel, a snowflake moray, a good sized maroon clown, 2 black occ. clowns and some others I dont remember. Maybe if you told him the tank is to small and he is probley going to kill his fish. I dont know. I have said it. I have at my house garlic, uv, and the stuff to deal with ick. I dont know what else to say. Please talk to him about the live rock and moving it to a 240 gallon tank soon, I know it is drastic but I am recomending either drying, freshwater soaking and recuring with new live rock or boiling before putting it into his new HUGE EXPENSIVE TANK!!!!!! I think the best way to insure the trophants are off and not stuck hiding in the underskleton pores of the corals is a freshwater dip. Not moving the live sand to his HUGE EXPENSIVE TANK!!!!! and very very very strict quar. procedures for all live stock coming into the tank. These are only my opinions I do not mean in any way to offend. I just dont know what else to say. I dont think a 30 will keep those fish stress free enough to recover from ick. I think the stress of fluctuating water quality, stress of extremly close quarters, lack of hiding spaces, medicine, and the parisite itself will kill his fish. Maybe if you say it Colin or Mojo or somebody else I dont know. steve
 

cwcross

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Sorry Steve,

I looked at the wrong message to get the name.

My philosophy on ich may not be very good so I may not be a good one to give advice. I basically do nothing, let it run its course and re-stock if necessary.

Some things I have observed are very strange. When the ich breaks out, some fish get it really bad, others are not affected at all. Even fish of the same species. For instance some of my chromis got it, some didn't. Most of my fish lived in both outbreaks. I know there was ich in my tank when I put the last two fish in them as it had been less than a month since the others died from it. However, they were completely unaffected and have never shown any signs of ich. This causes me to wonder.

Anyway just some thoughts...Collin
 

CarlaW

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I think Gordo may have the idea. The food I make up has crushed garlic in it. I have had a pyramid butterfly and a bluejaw trigger have ich in my tank, and nothing else got it. Maybe it is the garlic, maybe we are both just luckier than ^&*( !!!!
If I had the room, I would quarentine.
 
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